Vogue editor/notorious fashion industry scary woman Anna Wintour once ordered five bodyguards to carry her down five flights of stairs – just to avoid using an elevator, according to Project Runway mentor Tim Gunn.

The notoriously candid Tim makes the revelation in his new book, Gunn’s Golden Rules. Gunn recalls looking on in amazement as the men made a fireman’s lock to carry Wintour to her car after a fashion show in New York in 2006.

Tim writes: “I was with a colleague, and we had been discussing the will-she-or-won’t-she-take-the-elevator question, so we ran over to the elevator bay to see if Anna would deign to get on. She wasn’t there. Then we looked over the stairway railing. And what did we see but Anna being carried down the stairs. The bodyguards had made a fireman’s lock and were racing her from landing to landing. She was sitting on their crossed arms.”

He adds: “I ran to the window to see if they would put her down on the sidewalk or carry her to the car like that. They carried her to the car. And I thought, ‘I will never forget this.’”